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	<title>Comments on: Engagement seems dodgy</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://yardley.ca/2008/02/25/engagement-seems-dodgy/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>atlas created this before the aquisition-- fyi</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://yardley.ca/2008/02/25/engagement-seems-dodgy/comment-page-1/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://i2pi.com/rez/reich03advertising_exposure.pdf</description>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engagement as a metric is what drives almost all TV ad spend and much of print spend (especially magazine.)  Some proportion of advertising is meant to drive transactions and some is meant to build brands... the various psychological theories of the latter require the consumer to &#039;engage&#039; with the ad so that the brand is imprinted in their memory.  While TV media spend isn&#039;t as healthy as it was, it is still pretty healthy considering the decreasing time spent with the medium.  The reason for this is that there is no comparable way for internet ads to create engagement.

So, while I think measuring engagement is a good thing as more branding dollars move onto the internet, I hope the Atlas people are honest enough to admit that the numbers are miniscule.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m going out on a limb by saying that banner ads are completely ineffective in creating engagement.  Some of the interactive stuff and rich media stuff is more engaging, but probably not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engagement as a metric is what drives almost all TV ad spend and much of print spend (especially magazine.)  Some proportion of advertising is meant to drive transactions and some is meant to build brands&#8230; the various psychological theories of the latter require the consumer to &#8216;engage&#8217; with the ad so that the brand is imprinted in their memory.  While TV media spend isn&#8217;t as healthy as it was, it is still pretty healthy considering the decreasing time spent with the medium.  The reason for this is that there is no comparable way for internet ads to create engagement.</p>
<p>So, while I think measuring engagement is a good thing as more branding dollars move onto the internet, I hope the Atlas people are honest enough to admit that the numbers are miniscule.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going out on a limb by saying that banner ads are completely ineffective in creating engagement.  Some of the interactive stuff and rich media stuff is more engaging, but probably not much.</p>
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